'Cuts do lead to loss of quality' The great Arts Council interview (1): "Patronage is, of course, bullshit."

Joop Daalmeijer: 'I never authorise. I find that such nonsense. A journalist should just do his job properly.'

Wijbrand Schaap: 'We agree on that then. We write everything down in full, but because conversations about everything tend to be rather endless, I want to hang it on the Culture Outlook. That's the most concrete piece and the most topical, and the most cause for discussion.'

Joop Daalmeijer: 'Yes, that's going to happen now, yes.'

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